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No, I don’t have any insider friends or really know the title, but here’s my hope and the reasons behind it, beginning with what the meaning behind the term “under the rose” is and then my thoughts below.
UNDER THE ROSE
The term sub rosa is Latin for “under the rose,” The term carries a connotation of secrecy and confidentiality. Something which is said sub rosa should not repeated or widely disseminated, and it could be considered “off the record.” The link between being under the rose and confidentiality goes back to ancient times.
In Egypt, roses were linked with the god Horus, who was associated with silence by the Greeks and Romans due to an unfortunate mistranslation of a hieroglyphic representation of Horus. As a result, the Greeks and Romans began using the rose as a symbol for silence, with secret meetings literally being held under a rose to remind the people present that they were expected to remain silent about the events of the meeting.
The Romans also painted roses on the roofs of their banquet halls, as a reminder to guests that they should remain silent about the events of banquets, and that comments said “sub vino,” under the influence of wine, should not be repeated. Spreading information said during a sub rosa event or conversation would have been viewed as an extremely unwise move politically and socially, if the gossiper was caught.
The tradition of depicting roses on spaces meant for privacy and silence endures. Many confessionals, for example, have rose motifs to remind those in the confessional that the conversation is sub rosa, and rose motifs can be seen in some private rooms in halls of legislature as well.
In the Medieval era, the concept of a sub rosa meeting or conversation endured, and roses were hung in private chambers and meeting halls to remind those present that privacy was essential. Generally, the fact that the conversation was sub rosa would not have been spelled out, as people were expected to know that sitting under a rose represented a contractual obligation for silence.
In modern times, people may specify that a conversation is “sub rosa” to ensure that those involved understand that it is meant to be private, and the term is also used as a euphemism for covert operations.
the above was from http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-it-mean-when-something-is-said-to-be-sub-rosa.htm#didyouknowout
I’m really hoping that this is Album 5’s title and here’s some reasons why.
1) It sounds awesome
2) Hello, flower theme. Rose Garden Party.
3) The confessional nature of “under the rose.” TS is known for her confessional minded songs and it’s a lovely idea to put forth the some of the most poignant aspects of her life—she basically confesses her thoughts and life through song.
4) The imagery and symbolism are incredibly strong as was Red. You’re dealing with the many symbolisms behind Roses themselves, and as you can see “Under The Rose” has it’s own unique history that I was not aware of.
5) The past 2 years were a whirlwind of *not* having any privacy. The album title would imply the exact opposite of what she experienced. A day can’t go by without speculation, gossip, paps, lord knows what else, and here her album would be—implying privacy and secrecy. The things she wants(wanted) to say, but couldn’t because her words always get twisted in the press.
6) If we want to go literal with the symbolism, the predominant scenery for her stage show could be a gigantic blooming rose overhead that could shift colors/light/etc. It could serve the dual purpose of lighting the stage, setting the tone of songs, and be symbolic to the album itself, whereas “RED” was the color red. In the stadiums, a giant rose could hang above like a confessional guiding beacon, a colorful moon radiating below. Something dramatic, but memorable in the same way that people remember that white tree or that epic staircase for Trouble.
n the Middle Ages a rose suspended from the ceiling of a council chamber similarly pledged all present (those under the rose) to secrecy. (wiki)
7) Remember that photo she instagrammed of climbing roses? Well, she was under them, wasn’t she? ;-)
8) It’s a romantic, historical idea; from medieval, to romans, greeks, 1800’s, but confessions also bring to mind the harshness of truth and modern takes on privacy.
9) To confess can also be to admit ones admiration of someone else.
10) “She chose the Rose Garden over Madison Square.”
How about you choose Under the Rose in Madison Square? ;-)
11) Say it aloud “Under the Rose.” it gets breathy and ethereal when you say it aloud, doesn’t it?
12) It’s such a unique, precious, intelligent term. It might inspire an entire generation to dig up some history on the term and would make interviews very interesting. Truly.
13) If the title isn’t “Under the Rose” I really, really hope someone on her team sees this and suggests it. :) Comeonnnn
Taylor reacting to Blurred Lines - Viacom took down my youtube version of the video so here’s rehosted on tumblr.
I’m *SO* happy that someone saved this video. Watching Taylor and Reeve’s reactions were priceless. Reeve almost seems to say,”Should I get my ones ready?” You can tell they’re all having a great time.